So before, the whole building was packed. I mean, there was a lot of people, there were a lot of kids playing and because it was a section eight, low-income and regular rent. It mostly, it was mostly more low-income and section eight, we qualified. At that time, we qualified for section eight because my brother wasn't working. It was just me and my mom. That's when we moved here. And then my brother started working and, um, they raised the rent. And then because my brother started making more money, they took her section eight, but they kept us in the low income. Yeah. So we were in the low income for awhile until this. And then, the previous manager said, well, you know what? You don't qualify no more. You have to pay more rent. I said, okay. They added like 60, $70? I was like, okay. But then now they added so much money that I cannot afford it. My brothers don't live with me, my mom, I lost my mom's income and it's just me and my son, but my son is probably gonna move out. with his girlfriend. And what am I going to do? I'm not going to be able to afford 2,450 plus $50 for parking. That's too much.

​Well this started because we had got a flyer that they were going to raise right before November, they sent us that letter that we were going to get fix the rent. And I'm almost like, why ? We just, we just increased the rent, not even a year ago. And so that's when she decided to call channel 34, channel 22, channel 62, they called all those people. She started calling and only channel 34 came and the reporter knew a lady, uh a guy and he started helping us. And I guess he called them, the Chinatown association and that's how everything started getting into it. People started volunteering and that's how everything started.

​On the loss of community 

​There [used to be] more teenagers. Example. My son is 21. He was raised here. I used to sit, I just looked through the balcony, cause I live right here on the second floor and they used to play here. And I can say, "hey where you going? I know you can play in the hallway. I got to keep an eye on you." And now it's like everybody, his generation. Everybody did their own thing. Some already got married or they live with their girlfriends or they moved out because of the same situation. But they keep in touch. But now, the patio is lonely. It feels so weird. It feels so horrible. It's like you're walking into a scary movie. You're walking in the hallway, you don't know what's going to pop out, out of the doors.

​On Botz's Cash for Keys tactics

Like they will come at six, seven and knock at your door and be like, "Hey, you know, if you move out, I'm going to give you this amount of money." My mom didn't want to go outside no more. Cause she was in a walker. She would walk around,go outside. No! Cause Chloe's gonna come and. Yeah. Chloe would come and harass me until I told her one time, "you know what? Don't ever come to my house." If we've got issues, here's my number, because my mom's sick already. And then I got sick after my mom passed away. I got very depressed. Yeah. And then Patricia was harassing saying, "hey you have music loud,", or, you know, whatever it, whatever it was, she's just complaining. Then I told him my neighbor, I said, "you know what, can you tell her to talk to you?" Because she doesn't have a nice way to talk to you. She's kind of rude to talk to you. So I said "why don't you just tell her to talk to you and you can come and talk to me? I have nothing to do. I don't want to deal with her." And then saying just little by little started coming out and join in the game with them and hanging out here and talking to them. I feel sometimes like I'm a stranger, you know, after so long, you know, like, um, being without involving myself in, in the meetings and trying to catch up.